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 Post subject: Re: Milner [Merged]
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:48 am 
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I think Bart's arguments are sound. Milner could end up at Harry's Spuds. They have ambition to be a top four and trophy winning side, Spurs have a very good fan base. Yet the same could and should be said for Villa. Which brings me to my question. Why leave Villa?
You could bring the money issue into the matter, but we all know this is the reasoning of fools. What is a few thousand more when you earn so much already?
City has set its agenda out clear enough for all to see. We want to create a side that will not only challenge for domestic honours, but for acknowledgment in world football. We want a dynasty and brand that people will appreciate internationally. Maybe Milner wants that?

I personally don't think Milner is for me. Yes he is undeniably a good player, but there are better ones in his position.


Regarding your views on money! You're delusional if you think money doesn't play a part in swaying a player to move regardless of his present inflated wage!
It also depends on the players circumstances. The worlds very top players may not be too fazed by their pay packets but the vast majority will think very hard if confronted by an extra £50k-60k a week!
Everyman has his price! You're naive if you think otherwise!


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 Post subject: Re: Milner [Merged]
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:26 am 
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Bart wrote:
Haven't said it's a fact Milner will stagnate. I said it's reasonable to think he will. I'd love to know why the fella above thinks MON is an idiot as well though. I know many flaws to MON, but he's one of the few managers you can hardly call an idiot IMO.

Good article by Parker

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When you look at the number of players that Manchester City already have in their squad, especially in midfield, it looks as though James Milner will be just another to arrive on big money and not play regular football.

At Aston Villa last season he was one of the first names on the team sheet, but it's not going to be that way at Eastlands.

Milner is highly-praised for his versatility, but I can't see him holding down a regular starting place either on the wings or in the centre of midfield. Due to their recent signings, City have well over a dozen other midfielders in their ranks already. One of those is now a World Cup winner and another was a first-teamer at Barcelona for the past three years.
In footballing terms, I think it is a bad move for him. But if it is money that he is chasing then he's off to the right club.

To leave Aston Villa to go to Manchester City, it must be about money. City may be on a mission to spend their way to the top, but in terms of comparing the two clubs, both historically and in recent years, Villa have more about them. It's certainly not a step forward.

Roberto Mancini is loading himself up with problems, whether he tries to ignores the major egos in the dressing room and persist with a settled side, or whether he adopts a rotation policy to keep everyone happy.

Even when Chelsea were at their most spend-happy under Jose Mourinho, the Portuguese coach managed to keep a strong core within the first team. Mancini is going to struggle to do that with the number of playing staff already on his books as it is, without adding any more.

I personally don't think this will be a good move for Milner. For Villa, however, I think it could be great. They are in line to pocket a tremendous sum of money for a player who I don't think is worth anywhere near that amount.

Once again, last season Villa suffered from the lack of depth in their squad. They just weren't able to last the pace as the race for fourth place neared its end. So a windfall of anything up to the £30 million they are demanding can help Martin O'Neill make several significant signings that will greatly aid them next season.
He was great at times last season, and has improved year on year, but it remains to be seen if he can produce that form consistently. He is also still not proven at international level. It seems to me that City are once again paying well over the odds for a player.

Alex Ferguson or Arsene Wenger would certainly never dream of paying that kind of fee for a player of Milner's abilities. Not even Harry Redknapp, who is always keen to give English players a chance, would see him as a decent buy at that price.
I'm no fan of Premier League managers shipping in foreign players when there are equally talented Englishmen not being given the same opportunities, but when Milner is going for so much money can you blame them?


clueless comes to mind with you m8,i will say something to you how about he turns into another lampard goes from a mediocre west ham side to an a ambitious chelsea???? villa>>>city or is he just going to be stagnate as you say???


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 Post subject: Re: Milner [Merged]
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:33 pm 
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improved bid made.


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 Post subject: Re: Milner [Merged]
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:36 pm 
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Freestyler wrote:
improved bid made.


what sort of figure are we looking at?


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 Post subject: Re: Milner [Merged]
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Freestyler wrote:
improved bid made.


you think it will be accepted mate?


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 Post subject: Re: Milner [Merged]
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Freestyler wrote:
improved bid made.



Dang dang daaaaaaaang!


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 Post subject: Re: Milner [Merged]
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25mil yeah?


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 Post subject: Re: Milner [Merged]
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:55 pm 
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In this market how many signing can MON realistically make with 30m that are going to significantly improve the side?

3? 4 at max. Most teams think he is going to go out and buy a new team with this amount of money, whereas the fact is that he couldnt afford to if he wanted to. People seem to think the moyes and MON are some kind of deitys when it comes to picking up top class players for no money.

Reality check is that Milner cost 12m when Villa bought him and Felliani cost 15 m when Moyes bought him. Yeah they have got lucky with a couple of buys young and that yound defender you have were good buys for not much money, but no one mentions what good buys johnson and kompany were for us for so little money or jo hart .

Basically that is just a singular point that you can take out of the article and pick holes in it with. There is many others, ive got no grudge against villa like they seem to have against us, i just get peeved when arguments are used and there is no counter balance to them.


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 Post subject: Re: Milner [Merged]
PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:45 pm 
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Harry Redknapp just said Spurs couldn't get Milner


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 Post subject: Re: Milner [Merged]
PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:51 pm 
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Taylor wrote:
Harry Redknapp just said Spurs couldn't get Milner



They could never compete with us anyway, just stupid media bullshit. Nobody has that kind of money here exept us....even Chelsea.


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